literally, this is one of these things where they are grasping at straws to try to hurt hillary clinton or whatever. you can see the global media doesn't care. >> we saw the general testifying yesterday, getting emotional saying, you know, it could have been prevented had the state department really sort of tipped them off. and so my question at newt. let me throw this at you, you know, if hillary clinton does run in 2016, how does she answer those questions about what her state department did or did not do? >> she has a real challenge because last month, for example, more tweets about benghazi than there were about hillary clinton. this isn't going to go away. it's really about honesty and about accountability and transparency. but i do want to say a word and praise the white house press corps. this was the wrong place to raise that issue. it's a big deal. i think they focused on ukraine correctly. >> okay. let me end with this, something the three of us were talking about at commercial break. i do want to talk about basketball with you two. and newt, i know you are the ideas guy and i